The Miz: 20+ Years Of AWESOME, Headlining WrestleMania, Tough Enough, Maryse, The Rock

At what point did you feel like your career wasn’t going to happen?

"The entire time. As soon as I started at UPW and feeling my first bump that I ever took, I was like, oh my god, this is rough. Am I really going to be able to do this? Then going through the three years of basically trying to go into dark matches, trying to get a notice from WWE or even Japan, was very difficult. Trying to get any type of booking was very tough. I was getting booked on college circuits because I was on The Real World I was going to these colleges, and everyone would always ask me, 'Could you do The Miz?' I would cut promos as The Miz. There'd be 1000s of kids there listening to my speech, listening to my stories, and then I would go and perform in back alleys for like 20 bucks, or I wouldn't get paid. It was in front of 20 people, and literally, it was like that kind of contrast. But I was learning the art of professional wrestling while also doing speeches in front of 1000s of people. It was preparing me."

Do you remember being told you were going to be on Tough Enough?

"So that was the first break in wrestling, Real World, then The Challenge. I kept doing all the Miz stuff on those challenges. So I remember the call. I wanted to try out for Tough Enough season two, because I found out they're doing Tough Enough. I didn't realize they were doing it. Then when I found out they had a show, I asked MTV, I said, 'Hey, I want to try out for this.' And they were like, you can't try out. Because back then, you couldn't mix and match, you couldn't mix and match reality shows. It just wasn't thing back then. They [Real World & The Challenge] were both on MTV, and they were like, it would be confusing, this, that and the other. So I couldn't do that. So I had to stick with UPW in Los Angeles, continue learning the art of professional wrestling. Plus, I wasn't sure if I really wanted to be on Tough Enough because I started hearing rumblings. I was kind of, I guess you'd say in the know of wrestling. I would hear stories that if you were on Tough Enough, you weren't respected. I wanted respect, right? I felt like people were going to see me on a reality show and instantly say, he just wants his 15 minutes of fame, which, by the way, I did, I'm not gonna lie, but I did. I did love being famous or doing things that get a clap, a pat on the back. Maybe it's because, with my childhood growing up, Dad never patted me on the back and said I was doing great. I don't know what it is, but I kind of always like that whenever there's a camera around, I always wanted to be in front of it, no matter what. Even when I was in high school, I remember when news was around us. I remember watching the Cleveland Guardians play, and we were at some sort of concert venue to watch them play, because it was sold out in the stadium. I remember there was a news team and I ran down just to try to get on the news. I was like poking my head, you know. I ended up being on it, and I thought it was the greatest thing in the world. Then cut to what people really don't know about, I don't even think, but I'll tell you, I was on a show before the Real World, on MTV. I went to spring break, and I was in college, went with a bunch of my college buddies, and I saw MTV Spring Break was there, and I was like, oh my god, I got to be on this show. So I went there and I went through the casting. It was at Fat Tuesdays, and they were like, 'What would you do to get on TV?' I was like, anything we need me to do. They're like, 'Would you eat a bunch of peppers?' Yeah, no problem. I'm not a spicy food type of person. So it ended up being a part of spring break. It was me versus a guy that was getting his tongue pierced, a girl that was flashing the camera and that was it. So it was us three. I ate peppers. I swear to you, I ate so many peppers, you could see the red just start forming from the juices of it. I'm telling you, I was crying. The entire week was ruined by this senseless act of spring break. But I thought I could win. I thought I could win on spring break when the girl was flashing the camera, and she ended up winning. I know, what a surprise! I ended up having to put ointment on my skin because it was burnt."

But you got to be on TV:

"But I got to be on TV. So then when I tried out for The Real World, that next August, they almost didn't want me on the show because they thought I just wanted to be famous. But luckily for me, I went through all the interviews and made it on the show, and once I made it onto that show. Back to Tough Enough. So I wanted to try out for Tough Enough, they wouldn't let me do Tough Enough. So I started doing that, and then I got a call from WWE saying, Hey, would you like to try out for Tough Enough? We're doing it in Venice. There's 50 people that will show up, and you have to just try out. I said, Absolutely. Actually, I think I said yes, or I might have said, Let me think about it. And I called Rick Bassman, who got me in touch with Simon Dean, who was also from UPW and was on the show at the time. I remember asking Simon Dean, I was like, 'Would you do this? I want respect in the business, I don't want people to look at me as the Tough Enough guy, and just, I'll be out.' Because you watch the Tough Enough people, back then they got it, and they weren't respected, and everyone wanted them out. If they wanted you out, you're out."

 I think Maven would tell you that

"Yeah, if they want you out, they'll get you. So I knew I needed people to teach me inside the ring, and I knew I needed the respect, and if I went on Tough Enough, I wouldn't get that. He was like, 'Dude, have you gotten your foot in the door at all?' I was like, No, he goes,' It's for a million dollars. It's a million-dollar Tough Enough, it's a lot of money.' This is gonna sound really weird, and it might be to some people, but I don't care about the money. I see the big picture. I just need my foot in the door. Every time I would go backstage for dark matches, they never would pick me. They never wanted me. People knew who I was. I remember me working out with Charlie Haas and Shelton Benjamin. And I remember Bill DeMott walking out going, 'Real World's here!' I was like, oh man. I remember, I was like, Oh man, maybe they know I'm on The Real World. Maybe I can utilize this. Then I remember everyone had to get out of the ring, and Taker wanted to see Chris Masters wrestle. Chris Masters looked like a superstar, and he was like, 20-something, and he was in the same class that I was in. They tried him out, and he got a contract. I didn't. So I was like I don't know if I'm gonna get a contract ever. So I tried out for Tough Enough. And Tough Enough was tough. The first day was like 500 bumps. Just bam, bam, bam. All right, flip bumps, boom, boom, boom. I remember a guy, he was a Green Beret or a Navy SEAL, but he was some sort of Armed Forces dude, was stacked tough. I remember him calling us to his room, and he had ice everywhere after that first day. He was just blown up, his elbows were just total inflammation everywhere. And he was like, Dude, I'm quitting. I was like, Whoa, that fast. So one guy quit, and then all of us were just stuck together from that Tough Enough crew, and we'd go out every night, and it was tough. All the things like going backstage, and I know during that time, we're coming on to Tough Enough we're there to take a segment out of SmackDown, which takes a segment off of someone in that locker room. Not only that, they fired like 18 people the first day we were there. So we walk in and we're these guys. I knew, but none of the other guys knew they weren't trying to become WWE superstars. They were doing all different sorts of things, but I was trying to be a wrestler, so I knew, I was like, oh, man, this is not good. So they put us through the ringer on Tough Enough, but you had to earn it. You had to see who wanted to be there. I made it all the way to the end, but I'll never forget when Daniel Puder’s name was called, I was like, oh man, that was my chance. I always said, if you have a microphone, you have a time to really get the crowd back into you. I didn't do that. I don't know if I was inexperienced enough, where I just felt the emotion so much that I couldn't think, but when they gave me the thing, I just kind of just said, thank you everyone, and kind of shook hands and didn't really encapsulate that moment. It was heartbreaking. So I get backstage, Tommy Dreamer comes up to me and goes, you're probably going to get a contract for developmental. I was like, oh, man, that's awesome. And then I thought, okay, if I go to developmental, I need to be on TV in a year, right? So if I'm in a year, MTV called and said, Hey, we have another challenge. I was like, Hmm, maybe I shouldn't do this contract yet. I should get on MTV’s The Challenge again. Hopefully win that thing, and then I'll be on TV for a year, so the fans will never forget about me being on there. So I kind of told WWE I'd like to wait a couple months just to get my bearings back. I don't know why I said that, because that's dumb, like they're offering you a contract, and you're like, Yeah, I'll do it in two months. Yeah, this is my dream job. But I also knew I had a fan base, and I wanted to keep that fan base, and I also wanted closure with MTV. So I went on the inferno part two. I won. And while that show, before that show even started airing, I signed my contract for WWE. Then they were like, Yeah, you're gonna have to move to McDonough Georgia. So moved to McDonough Georgia, and it was a brand new territory at the time, and, oh, man, it was in a shopping plaza. We were right next door to any type of shop you would see at a shopping plaza."

I’ve mainly seen The Miz as a heel, but there have been moments of you being a babyface:

"My character doesn't really work as a baby face, if I'm being honest. It's a person that can lose, and then the next day, you'll forget about that loss, because I'll just cut a promo and just make you believe. But with the babyface, babyfaces can't really lose a lot. If a babyface loses too much, you lose [appeal]. Everyone always says winning doesn't matter, winning doesn't matter. It matters. It really does matter. Especially if you're a babyface, because in my opinion, if you're a babyface and I'm a kid out there, my kids always ask me, ‘Did you win? Did you win? Did you win?’ I always have to go, ‘Ah, daddy didn't win this week. But you know, I'll get him next week.’ You can only say that so many times to a kid where they're just like, I want a winner. I want a winner. I want to cheer a winner. People like winners, people like first place, they don't like second place, they don't like third place. They want the guy, their guy, and they want their guy to win, so if he doesn't win… So that's why I feel like my character, I'm so good at losing and then making you forget about that loss, and then making you believe the next day that I can beat the biggest superstar in the world. I could lose to whoever. Guy comes up from NXT, Je’Von Evans, and beats me. The next day, I can be in the main event. I can go up against John Cena, not anymore, but I go up against your biggest superstar, and I can make you believe I can beat that person, and you will believe that I will beat that person. But as a babyface, it's a little tougher. It's been weird these past couple of years, though. I would say this past year has been weird."

In what way?

"So the things I do that I know in my rolodex of being a heel and being a bad guy, I'll do and it doesn't get the boos anymore."

Because people want to cheer you:

"If you're gonna cheer me, cheer me. If you're just gonna go Ah! He’s so good. I don't want that. I don't want that. That's the death, because that's just, I don't know what to really do." 

But do you feel the respect? 

"Yes, I feel the respect. I feel it in the locker room. I feel it in the crowd, but I'll hear you say it. 'Oh, Miz has gotten his flowers.' You know what kind of flowers I get? I get the ones that are half dead, that you give to me and they're gonna die the next day. You don't give me a full bouquet of flowers that are like, here are your flowers. John Cena gets the flowers. I don't get the flowers. I get the half-dead flowers that are like, Here you go, here's your flowers. We're giving you your flowers. It's the half assed flowers."

Why do you think that is?

"I don't know. Maybe it's because, maybe because I don't want them."

Have you always been locked in with the fans?

"No. Cena got me there. I would say three or four years in I separated from John Morrison, which was an amazing tag team, for me, at least, it was a very educational tag team, because he was more experienced than I was, he is more out of the box thinker than I am, and he would make me do things that I normally wouldn't do. But since we did them, it made it awesome. Anyway, I separate from John Morrison. I go to Raw and they're like, your first feud will be with John Cena. Wow. Excuse me?! I'm wearing shorts, a fedora, a bandana. I'm like, Oh my God, this is it! This is the moment I've been waiting for. This is my chance. This is my shot. And by the way, John Cena is not going to be here for the next six weeks. So you're just gonna call him out. He's not gonna show up, and you're just gonna say, I win one, nothing, two, nothing, three, nothing, four nothing, until seven, nothing. Then I'm gonna have a pay-per-view match singles against John Cena. I'm thinking, Oh, my God, I'm coming up with ideas. I'm thinking, Oh, I could do this, I could do this, I could do this. I could do this. Literally, we called that match in the ring. John called the match in the ring, and he gave me, it wasn't a squash by any means, because I got heat on him. But he literally did his five moves of doom, and pinned me 1, 2, 3, and then wiped the floor with me and walked out. I was like, oh my god, it's over. I mean, all that work that I just put in, like, I thought I was really getting over. I thought I was really getting steam. And then he just mopped the floor with me. I remember going backstage and I see Arn Anderson. He was like, ‘Great job kid.’ I was like, 'Great job? That was like, five minutes. That wasn't the barn burner that you want to put on a pay-per-view match.' He's like, 'You're not ready for John Cena.' I go, 'But I just did all these promos. What are you talking about? Not ready?' He's like, 'You haven't been through the wars.' I was like, 'I was a Tag Team Champion.' He's like, 'Yeah, you were Tag Team Champion. You need to go through the wars to get to John Cena. You need to go through years of just preparing yourself and going through and big builds of big stories that really get you to a John Cena. You can't just walk in there.' I was like, oh, that's how a top guy knows, like John knew. So now I had to go back down and dig deep and start building myself little by little. Find stories, find ways to make a story bigger than it was supposed to be. I started doing that. I started getting the United States Championship. Then all of a sudden, I had the Tag Team Titles. I had three titles at one point. Then I had the Money in the Bank briefcase and I was like, Oh my God. I got three titles, Money in the Bank. I'm really doing it. I'm doing exactly what Arn Anderson told me for the next year."

Did you have any idea of when you might be invited back into the locker room? 

"I had no idea. I knew the person that told me that, hey, you're kicked out of the locker room. He said you're not coming in until I say so."

Was that The Undertaker? 

"No, that person went away. So then when that person went away, I was like, oh boy, how am I gonna get back in the locker room? So I had to wait another three months. I asked Taker. I was like, 'Man, I've been out of the locker room for a long time.' He goes, 'Oh, you have?' Yeah, I've been out like six months. 'What'd you do?' I ate a piece of chicken in the locker room, and it got all over. I still believe it did not, but other people will tell you differently, and they can have their opinions. That is fine. I was under a microscope of, let's get this guy. A lot of times in a locker room, someone could say he ate a piece of chicken over my thing. And, [someone else says] 'Oh, man, what are you doing? Why are you doing this?' And then another guy walks in. 'Oh, you ate chicken over his his bag?' Another guy walks in. 'He did what?!' Then another guy is outside the locker room. And then he heard he ate chicken and he got it all over the place. Then by the time the telephone game was played, I was throwing chicken all over the locker room, I was smearing it on stuff, that's what it felt like. So yeah, I went to Taker and I said, I ate chicken over a bag. Yeah, it's real."

But you have to realize how ridiculous that must have been. 

"It was so ridiculous. I'm a grown man, and people are always like, 'Why don't you fight them? Why don't you stick up for yourself?' Because back then, if I would have done something like that, I probably would have been fired, or I looked at it as if I stand up to this person who is a locker room leader and very respected, and the reality guy steps up and talks and mouths off at that person, they're never going to teach me. I need them to teach me. I'm not going to learn this. These new up-and-coming NXT Superstars, as much as they're going to learn, and trust me, they have an excellent training facility and excellent trainers. But they're going to learn so much more by being in the ring with people that have been there. Cody Rhodes, when you get in the ring with Roman Reigns, and you get in the ring with these guys, it's another level that you can't teach in front of your colleagues, like you can't teach at a school. You have to teach it in front of an audience. It takes reps and reps and reps and reps. They'll be the first to tell you it. So I knew I needed reps with stars, with main eventers so I could wrestle like a main eventer. I can watch all the footage I want of it. But there's a difference between watching it and actually doing it. Everyone can watch it, not everyone can do it." 

So take me back to the day where you won the WWE Championship:

"I didn't walk in knowing, that was a day of situation. Same thing when I won my second WWE Championship. I had no idea. I thought I was losing it the second time. I thought the reason they took it off of Otis was so he didn't have to lose, so they're giving it to someone that can just lose the Money in the Bank and be done with it. The first time, I didn't know. It was Orlando, I walk in the arena, and I got into meeting with Vince. Usually I didn't have a meeting with Vince, but this day they were like, 'Hey, you got to meet with Vince.' I wonder what's happening. Honestly, I was starting to believe I was going to lose it. If you remember, I had three titles. They were giving me the rocket without me realizing I had the rocket. Most people didn't think I had the rocket either, because even though I had three titles and everything like that, people still just like, Go away, go away. So I get in there, and he's like, 'We're gonna put it on you.' I go, Huh? Oh, my god, wow, I'm not losing?  No, we're putting it on you. Okay. I'm gonna do my best to make sure that this is the biggest thing ever. I will do whatever it takes. He’s like, 'I know you will. You've worked hard for this.' I really have, and I'm about to work even harder. So I remember kayfabing everyone, not telling a soul. I remember I had a match that day, or I had something where I had my gear on, and everyone was asking, Dude, why are you still wearing your gear? I was like, just tired, man, just tired. Everyone's kind of peeping over. I remember Randy going through the Nexus, Wade, Barrett, everyone. I remember the day because we had a promo class that day, and the promo class was about being animalistic. I think I remember, I think it was Wade and Sheamus having a promo battle where they were barking like dogs. The lesson, as stupid as it sounds, the lesson is sometimes you don't need words to translate exactly what's happening in a match, you need that raw, primal [energy]. So I envisioned myself as a wolf attacking. You ever see a wolf trying to attack and the other person's trying to get away, and you're just like, it's locked in on the injury. It sees the blood. When you see the blood, you're going for it. So that promo class taught me that. So that's when I walked out and when I got into the ring. I remember I was like a wolf, locked in, saw the injury. His leg was injured. I was going after it. I could feel, and this is whatever, you can call it acting, or whatever, method acting. I could feel my mouth just watering for it, almost foaming for that, because I knew I was getting that title, and I'm going to get that title. So I went after Orton’s leg, tore it up. He goes for his RKO, I hit the move, and while I'm hitting the move, I'm going, yes, yes, yes, yes. Boom, 1, 2, 3, it's real. It's real. So many things go through your mind when a moment like that happens, it's like you see pictures. You see, as a kid, watching wrestling, playing with my red, white and blue ropes, and flinging my action figures, going to Toys R Us, asking my dad, 'Hey Koko B Ware’s at Toys R Us. Can we please, please, please, please, go, go wait in line and get his autograph?' 'No, I don't have time for that.' You know, walking in and seeing which one I didn't have. I don't have Undertaker. I don't have Ultimate Warrior yet. I don't have this one. I don't have this color. I remember those, it's going through my head while I'm winning. Then going through meeting Hulk Hogan for the first time in Toronto, and him asking me about The Real World, that's going through my head. Going to UPW for the first time, meeting Rick Bassman, saying, 'Hey, I'd really love to train here.' $2,500 and you can train as much as you want. Absolutely, no problem paying the money. Going to Deep South Wrestling, the hardest stuff I ever had to go through, the blood, the sweat, the tears, then going through getting kicked out of the locker room, winning my first championship, Tag Team Championship, almost getting in a fight the same day that I won my tag team titles. United States Champion, first singles title. Oh my god, climbing up the ladder, grabbing the Money in the Bank briefcase going, oh my god, this is happening. The crowd booing in awe saying, Oh my God, you just threw Randy Orton, our hero, off. This is going through my all of it while I'm winning, while I'm sitting there. This is how fast it's going through my head, bubble, boom. Then having the Money in the Bank. Everyone's saying, all the critics and everyone online saying 'He's going to be the first to lose. We hate him. We don't want him, give it to another person. There's so many better options. Give it to DiBiase, give it to Cody, give it to someone, anyone but The Miz.' Then going in there and winning and holding it up. And then you're like, Oh my God. And then all those things go through. And then you feel the eyes, the water starts to happen. And you're like, No, wait, this is my first moment as a WWE, I can't be crying. No, don't cry. Don't cry. So then what do I do? I get up and I go to the top rope to kind of walk it off. Walk off those tears that are about to happen. I hoist the title up, and I'm like, oh my god. I remember Alex Riley, hugging him, being like, I did it, we did it. Oh my god, I don't know what to say or do, because that's not supposed to happen. Dreams supposed to happen when you're sleeping, not when you're there, and this is the dream. I walk backstage and everyone's clapping. Nowadays, no one stays after the show, but back then, everyone stayed after the show. It was mandatory, everyone was there and everyone was clapping. Maybe they were made to do that, I don't know, or maybe they felt compelled to do it, but, man, that was a really cool moment, really cool moment to have all these people there. Man, this is crazy. And then afterwards, me and Maryse went to Denny's, and I had a breakfast slam to celebrate because nothing was open and I didn't plan a party."

So you remember winning the WWE Championship so vividly, What do you remember from Wrestlemania 27?

“So I remember my entrance. I remember not seeing that vignette. That Hate Me Now vignette is so good. I still think it’s the best. People say Rock and Austin, My Way, they say that one’s the best. I beg to differ, and the reason is what that vignette did in that moment. I wonder if that vignette was put on SmackDown, there would have been a different feeling energy going in. Because going in, I remember I was swallowed up. You’re the WWE Champion, I’m going up against titans, The Rock and John Cena, titans. Then there’s me with the WWE Championship. Back then, it still is very, very competitive. But man, everyone was fighting for it. Everyone’s fighting for that spot, that main event spot. I’m like, Man, I want this main event. I have to get this main event. This main event is everything; we have to get it. I mean, I have The Rock, I have Cena, this has got to be it. But there were so many great matches and great superstars on that card. It could have went either way. So I remember that leading up to it, the promos, everything, oh my God. I remember the promo I cut, where I walked out as The Rock. I didn’t think it was gonna work at all. I went out, did the whole Rock thing, and then I cut a promo, and I remember The Rock calling me, leaving a message, being like, ‘Dude, that was it. That was amazing. That’s how you step up to the plate. Blah, blah, blah.’ I’m like, Oh man, I’m ready. So then for the match portion of this, I remember seeing Hate Me Now vignette for the first time, right before I’m about to go out. I remember hearing the audience go, oh! As I walked out, I had bubbles. In my head I was like bubbles?! Awesome bubbles?! I’m the main event. I’m WWE Champion. People get pyro, huge displays of pyro. I got bubbles?! I actually ended up loving the bubbles busting out. No one’s ever done that. And then when I remember them saying, ‘You have Pyro for 30 seconds, so make sure you keep it there.’ I’m like, oh, man, this is gonna be great. They’re sparklers. I’m going, I thought these were gonna be big, huge. This is freaking sparklers. It’s like, all right. There we go. Then I remember looking over to my friends and telling them, literally, 'We did it.' I remember being in Parma, Ohio, in Sandpiper at my condominium, and we would watch every pay-per-view, ECW, WCW, WWE all the time. I just remember all of us watching, and they were all there in front row watching me with the WWE Championship that we watched Rock and Austin fight for all the time. So I was like, We did it. I remember Cena’s choir. I was like, Oh, this guy gets a choir. Then he comes out, does his thing. I remember that the heat spot, if you will, because it wasn’t a heat spot. It was just me beating him up in the corner. I remember that. I remember the pop of the crowd when I kicked out of the AA. I remember Cena saying, ‘Just grab onto the ropes kid, grab onto the ropes. We got you. We got you.’ Boom. Rock. Boom. I remember Chioda going, ‘Cover him kid, cover him.’ I’m just like, Huh, what’s going on? 1, 2, 3, winning. And I remember Chioda telling me, ‘Throw your title at The Rock. Throw your title at The Rock.’ I’m like, Yeah, okay, threw the title at The Rock. Remember The Rock coming in. 'I got you kid. Don’t you worry. Don’t you worry. We got this.' I have no idea. Boom, boom. And then it was over. I remember, I see stuff on the internet. I was like, I don’t remember that. I don’t remember that. I don’t remember that. I don’t remember being backstage and me just being like, ‘Was it good?’ I don’t like seeing myself like that. But some people are like, 'Oh, what would you have done if they stopped the match?' That would have been the worst possible scenario, the worst possible scenario, if someone would have stopped that match. I was in good hands, and I trusted the two people in there, and I will always trust them and always be thankful for them, all three of them. It’s not just The Rock and Cena, Chioda as well. They all protected me. They all looked at me, and they all allowed me to do what I needed to do to make that whole situation a success.”

You've been there so long that you've seen so many of your friends, so many of your colleagues get released. Did you ever think that maybe that call was coming for you?

"Yeah, honestly, every time there's a release, I'm like, Oh no, is it me?"

Especially when it’s people like Dolph Ziggler get released:

“That was a tough one for me to see him go, because it was kind of like the last of my really core group of friends. I have friends, obviously, in the locker room, but that was my core group of friends. I was like man, I’ve had such great matches with Dolph too. Him putting his career up and me the IC Title. That whole IC title reign he was a big part of elevating that title as well. During that time for me, and so to see him go is tough, but that’s the name of this business, it happens, those type of things happen. For me, this is going to sound very cocky and arrogant. I know how valuable I am. I know how good I am, and whether the audience sees it or not, I know people know. If you’ve wrestled me, you know. So yes, there’s always in the back of your mind, 'Oh, is it me? Is it me? Is it me?' But then there’s also that other part that goes, 'I’ve done a lot in this business, and I still got more.'”

What is The Miz grateful for?

"My wife and kids, to call myself a WWE Superstar, and to wake up every day."

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