March 11, 2025

Scott Steiner On Steiner Math, Bron Breakker, "He's Fat" Promo, Big Poppa Pump, Hall Of Fame

Scott Steiner (@ScottSteiner) is a retired professional wrestler and WWE Hall of Famer. He sits down with Chris Van Vliet to discuss his careers in WWE, WCW and TNA, his insane body transformation when he embarked on his solo career, the inspiration for Big Poppa Pump and his signature chainmail, his iconic Steiner Math and "He's Fat" promos in TNA, if Bron Breakker was ever going to use the Steiner name, a foot injury he is still dealing with to this day, his son signing a WWE NIL deal and more!

https://cvvtix.com - Get your tickets for INSIGHT LIVE in Las Vegas with VIP Meet & Greet!

Scott Steiner (@ScottSteiner) is a retired professional wrestler and WWE Hall of Famer. He sits down with Chris Van Vliet to discuss his careers in WWE, WCW and TNA, his insane body transformation when he embarked on his solo career, the inspiration for Big Poppa Pump and his signature chainmail, his iconic Steiner Math and "He's Fat" promos in TNA, if Bron Breakker was ever going to use the Steiner name, a foot injury he is still dealing with to this day, his son signing a WWE NIL deal and more!

Quote I'm thinking about: "Enjoy the little things in life, for one day you may look back and realize they were the big things." — Robert Brault

Please support our sponsors!

PURE PLANK: The future of core fitness! Use the code CVV to save 10% on Pure Plank designed by Adam Copeland & Christian: https://gopureplank.com/?ref=tibcloux

TIMELINE: Go to https://timeline.com/insightto get 10% off your order of Mitopure! 

VUORI: Get 20% off your first purchase! Get yourself some of the most comfortable and versatile clothing on the planet at https://vuori.com/cvv

ROCKET MONEY: Join Rocket Money today and experience financial freedom: https://rocketmoney.com/cvv

HUEL: Get 15% off plus a FREE Gift for NEW customers with the code INSIGHT at https://huel.com

ZOCDOC: Instantly book a top-rated doctor today at https://zocdoc.com/insight

BONCHARGE: Use the code CVV to save 15% off your infrared sauna blanket at https://boncharge.com/cvv 

BLUECHEW: Get your first month of BlueChew for FREE at https://bluechew.com

RHONE: Rhone’s premium performance clothing is made to move you. Use code CVV to save 20% at https://www.rhone.com/CVV

MANSCAPED: Get 20% off plus free shipping when you use the code CHRISVAN at https://manscaped.com

PLUNGE: Get $150 off your Plunge with the coupon code CVV150 at https://plunge.com

On his son Brock being signed to a WWE NIL deal:

"That came about because they saw it on ESPN, he had two games. One he outran them for 85 yards and scored a touchdown and ESPN picked it up. Of course, they had a side-by-side of me and him, and yeah it took off. And then that's when they start to get interested."

On if both of his sons could be in WWE at some point:

"I’m not sure. They both loved it when they were kids and when I wrestled. All sudden when I stopped they really didn't pay attention to it too much. So I don’t know. Well, the thing that came about with Brock, because Brock, Brandon and Bronson [Bron Breakker], and there's a couple other guys get in sometimes, sometimes Brandon's basketball friends or Bronson’s other guys at wrestling, they'll play video games. So with Brock talking to Bronson all the time, and of course he's on a trajectory that's unbelievable. So he talks to Bronson, talks to Brock, then one thing led to another and he got the bug. He went out. He wanted to do it. There’s not a better time to be wrestling, because there's two [promotions]. WWE is doing phenomenal. Then you guys at AEW, so it's always good to have competition. So I never really wanted them to go on the wrestling, but I let them do what they want to do." 

On if Bron Breakker was ever considered to use the Steiner name:

"Well they never shied away from that because he introduced us at the Hall of Fame. So for whatever reason they used Bron Breakker, but they know he's a Steiner, so I think Brock would probably use a Steiner name. I'm not sure if it would be Brock, but it would be Steiner." 

On his image transformation when he went solo:

"They didn’t realize it was me the next day, because we wrestled at the pay-per-view when I turned on my brother. Then that morning I went to a salon. It was in California, and that's when I bleached [my hair]. When I came to the building, nobody [recognized me]. It took them a while for people to recognize me, even announcers didn't really click until, yes, I looked totally different. Which was the exact thing that I wanted to happen. I didn't want anybody to think that I was still Scott Steiner of the Steiner brothers."

On the inspiration for Big Poppa Pump:

"Well, it first started like it was two different personalities. When I first came out of college, I was a college kid, happy-go-lucky. But when you're in wrestling for a while, things change. Setbacks, people keep you down, politics, you get p*ssed off. So at that point, when I turned into Big Poppa Pump I was very pissed off and people could just kind of tell that in my interviews. Because I was tired of the bullsh*t of professional wrestling, things that happened behind closed doors. You don't really know what's going on. Luckily, I had some guys in the back doors that told me what was going on most of the time, but a lot of times I didn't know. That was a real thing back then the older guys keeping the younger guys down. When I said that I got beat in my first match after turning heel, the call was made by Hulk Hogan to have me beat. So the reason I knew that because somebody that was in the vicinity of talking to him. So it might piss me off, but you can overcome wins and losses. People can see your personality and what you do on camera. Wins and losses, you can overcome them. But when another wrestler decides he's going to decide who wins, it is bullsh*t." 

Why do you think Hogan did that? 

"He's a motherf*cker. There's no other way I can say it, he's a piece of sh*t. We did a Nitro in Buffalo and I knew who I had to wrestle, per se. But ten minutes before the show went on air at ten to eight I didn't know if it was going to happen or not. We had to wait until Hogan got to the building and say, clear it. Yeah, you could do what they had written down."

On if he is still not good with Hulk Hogan present day:

"What am I gonna do now? But I don't forget. There's a reason why he got booed in California, all this stuff that came out with him, racist comments. Now you would never found that out if it wasn't recorded behind closed doors. So I think a lot of people realize the perception, or the perception that WWE or WCW wanted of Hulk Hogan was not really him. The racist comment. Hogan and Savage. I was good friends with Savage, so I knew all the stories and he used to tell me all the stuff. Then of course the one time he tried to put me in jail. I was facing serious time. I could have been in jail for 15 years."

What for?

"Well, I found out the bullsh*t he was doing in TNA. So when I left, I let it be known that the next time I see him I would slap the sh*t out of him. But I hadn’t seen him for like a year, then I had met his wife backstage, it was in San Jose for the WrestleMania. It was this platinum blond that was looking at me. But finally, I kind of remember meeting [her]. I was still wasn't sure. So went up to her and said, 'Are you Hulk Hogan's wife?' And she said, Yeah. At that point he was going to induct Savage into the Hall of Fame, which was bullsh*t. So I told her that. I told her he was a piece of sh*t for that whole situation, and I was going to slap the sh*t out of him. I said that, nobody heard me. It was very low-key, and I didn't raise my voice or anything. Grabbed my bags and left. Well, she called Hogan. He came to the airport, and then he called the San Jose Police Department saying that I slapped her and I threatened to kill him. Well that’s terroristic threats and aggravated assault. So I got a call from the San Jose Police Department. It was on TMZ and stuff. And luckily it happened at the airport because there were so many cameras. Otherwise it would have been her and him against me. So that would have been a tough case in court. But since it was on camera, I told them don't bother me anymore. It's on camera, they stopped." 

On the origin of the chainmail:

"Well, I had the two girls walk out with me, and I went to a strip bar to find them some nice, sexy lingerie stuff, so they could walk out with me. And I saw that the chain mail in a case. I thought sh*t I gotta have that, and I wore it ever since."

On his entrance with a tiger:

"Well, it just so happened that weekend we wrestled a few house shows before the Nitro and the guy showed up. So I asked him if he wanted to go to Nitro, which was good for him. He owned a bunch of animals. A lot of them were saved, so I asked him to come. I had to clear it through different channels but they finally gave it to him. Backstage there is a 2,000-pound animal, and Rey Mysterio was wearing zebra print overhauls, and he squat down. That cat was like that. That actually made the guy really nervous, because he said, please don't do that again, because if he attacks you, I can't stop him. So yeah, I noticed it got tense for a little bit. But then we did a walk-through before the show, which was a little bit different, because during the show air shot up. I think it moved a little bit, he felt the power, because it shocked him a little bit. He moved a little bit, and I was right next to him, so he moved me and it was like damn, that’s a powerful animal."

On the Ric Flair shoot promo on WCW:

"Well it was the bullsh*t that was going on. It was something I thought of and I did [have a live mic]. Yeah, they tried to fire me for that, J.J. Dillon. [How did you not get fired?] Because it was bullsh*t. nWo went out there and attacked anybody they wanted every night. So I was pretty much staying with the standard of what the nWo did and the stuff they were trying to say, it was so in touch with my character. But then I got a lawyer, so then they tried to suspend me, which they couldn't suspend me either. So nothing happened."

On becoming more muscular:

"Well, I didn't get a whole lot bigger. I just got cut. I mean, I got ripped. When I first got in wrestling being big was what it was all about, like The Road Warriors. I remember Hawk was doing a wrestling match against Lex Luger. I remember the line he said, cuts are for kids, which is what everybody thought, being as big as you could. But when I turned into Big Poppa Pump I had back problems too. So I had to get lighter, and I just got leaned out. Yeah I got more cut."

On why he didn’t immediately move to WWE after WCW closed down:

"I was under contract. It was me, Goldberg, I think Nash and Hall were still under contract, so why would I leave? Because they were giving out lower contracts at the time. So it made no sense to me. I mean, they had called me up, and I had a number in mind they had to pay me, because they wanted me. Johnny Ace was calling me, 'Hey, we got you wrestling with you and Austin against Scott Hall and Kevin Nash.' Dangled that carrot. I said, 'Yeah, all right, just pay me what I wanted.' I don't know, could have been bullsh*t, it could not been. But, then one other time in the summertime, we call it back, and that's when WWE was getting into movies. Oh, you want to be a movie star, right? It's like, I really don't care. Just pay me what I what I asked for, and finally came about in October, November."

On his foot injury:

"I wrestled one night in Tennessee, and the next morning I wrestled in Knoxville, woke up and it was like that. They said I hit that peroneal nerve, it's called Drop Foot. But to this day I still will trip for the last, 20 25, years. I won't fall, but I'll stumble, because this foot is still dead and it still drags, it's like that. I am trying to move it. I could do that right there. I can't bring it up. So most of the time I wear a brace, sometimes I don't. If I'm traveling, I'll wear a brace."

On the Steiner Math promo:

"No, I just thought about it. I knew maybe an hour before I start thinking about it, they told me I had to do an interview. I come from a highly educated university, so it just made sense. All the numbers made sense. And actually, there's a Harvard professor, I don't know, because everything you read on Twitter is 100% true, right? So he checked the numbers said, yeah, they added up. So I'll take that Twitter feed."

On if he thought it would be so memorable:

"I had no idea. I'm appreciative of the fans that still remember it. So yeah, and it turned out to be that people still talk about it to this day."

On the "He’s fat" promo:

"Oh yeah, he's fat, fat ass. I do cameos and, like a lot of times the guys will be like, ‘Can you please call my buddy a fat ass? He's getting married and tell him you're going to steal his wife.’ So the last one I did, he says, ‘Man, I've been working out. I think I'm in great shape, but I quit working out for a little bit. I need a pep talk. Can you call me a fat ass now?’ People still love that." 

On Bully Ray:

"I had lot of good time being down there with Bubba. And he did not like to be called fat, of course. So when he told me please don't do that of course I’m gonna do it. So I remember, when I announced where he was from the state of obesity. Look at his face, he was [mad] but I could honestly say he's probably laughing inside, because me and Bubba had some good times doing interviews down there. But it was being mean in a humorous way, and making it come out like you're pissed off and being a prick."

On the siren in his entrance:

"It was just something I came up with, was me and one of one of my wife's friends she knew from back in Buffalo or Rochester. His name was Ben Zeblin. He did music, still does in New York, and I collaborated with him. We came up with that entrance music, which is why I could still use it to this day, because I own that."

What is Scott Steiner grateful for:

"My wife and 2 kids."