AskCVV #11 - Edge in AEW, Jim Cornette, Will Cody Finish The Story, Marketing Your Podcast, Best Rocky Film

What are your thoughts on Edge, or I guess it's Adam Copeland now, signing with AEW?

"It's big. It's a big one. And I've seen the debates of like, is this the biggest signing that AEW has ever had? I think objectively, the answer is no. I mean, it's big. It's top two or three. But the biggest one has got to be CM Punk. When CM Punk walked out of WWE in 2014, it sure sounded like he was never going to wrestle ever again. So him coming back, and I've talked about this before, but him coming back at the time that he came back it was one of the very first shows with a full audience in his hometown. That crazy Chicago crowd. I don't know if AEW will ever beat that return, I guess it's technically a debut, but a wrestling return like that. That's one of the biggest wrestling returns/debuts really, ever. I think that Adam Copeland is a close second. And I'm surprised, I mean, if I'm being honest about it, I'm really surprised. We all saw the rumours. We all saw the reports that his contract was going to be up, oh my gosh, I can't believe WrestleDream happens to be the next day. What are the odds? Wow, that lines up too perfectly. I didn't think it was gonna happen. I really thought that the way that things wrapped up in Toronto, in his hometown, 25 years of Edge, they made that entire SmackDown episode around him. It just felt like a family type of thing. It felt like you're one of us. And I guess from the sounds of it, it sounds like Edge, I keep calling him Edge. I don't know. I guess we'll call him Adam, I don't know. I guess Adam wanted to do more and WWE didn't really have that plan for him. So he's open to doing those matches in AEW. Now he's with his best friend, his new rival, but his long-time tag team partner Christian Cage who is on fire right now! The work that Christian Cage is doing is incredible. So it's surprising. But I'm so excited to see what's possible here. And what was so interesting was we all thought yeah, maybe he'll be there and then when Christian was in the main event at WrestleDream, it felt like okay, this could be like possible that they're setting something up here. But then when you heard “You think you know him.” And it was “You think you know him.” Not “You think you know me.” and then they paid for, you know, Edge’s theme song like, it was good, it was magical and it was a great moment. And I will say whether you are an AEW fan, WWE fan, Impact Wrestling fan, or whatever it happens to be, you can't deny that it was a great moment. That was such a great moment. Him coming out through the smoke, the look on Christian Cage's face. And then we saw the payoff, or at least the setup for a feud between Christian and Edge on Dynamite, Go F yourself. So good. That's what pro wrestling is all about, is creating moments. That's what we got at WrestleDream. That's what we got on Dynamite. And I'm sure with two veterans, like Adam Copeland and Christian Cage together, they're gonna make magic in the match when they end up having that. So I'm excited to see what's possible here. But I'm surprised, if you had asked me last week, is Adam Copeland gonna sign with AEW, I'd say no, I don't think so. Like I feel like if things ended really well in WWE, he spent 25 years there, lifelong WWE guy. And look, I was wrong, but I'm glad I was wrong. Because it's the fans, we win here."

So I'm trying to get my content out to reach more people, but it feels like I'm not marketing myself well enough, any tips to help promote my stuff better?

"Well, look, I like that you use the word marketing here. Because that's a really key part to putting out whether it's a podcast, or it's content on YouTube, you really can't just put it out and hope that people find it, especially when you're starting out. And, of course, everybody starts at zero. So you got to remember that, so stop comparing yourself to people who have 1000s of followers, 10s of 1000s of followers, hundreds of 1000s, millions, whatever, everybody starts at zero. So when you put your stuff out there, I think you got to do whatever you can, with whatever channels you have to promote it in the best way that you can. So if you're putting out a podcast, put it out on Twitter/X, whatever we're calling it, put it out on Facebook, put it out on LinkedIn, if you have an email list, send them an email, put it on Instagram. And I think the biggest thing and if you guys follow me, you know that I capitalise on this as much as I possibly can, put out as many reels, shorts or TikToks as you can. They're like these little advertisements for the whole show. Because if you have a podcast, and I know this full well here, we are 520 episodes in. If you have a podcast, asking someone who doesn't know who you are and has never heard your show before, asking them to invest an hour of their time, or even five minutes of their time to see if they like the first five minutes. That's a huge investment. If someone were to text you a link and said, Oh, this podcast was so great, you've got to listen to it, and they send you a Spotify link or an Apple podcast link, you're going, Yeah, I don't think I'll be getting to that anytime soon. Maybe on a long drive, like two weeks from now, maybe that'll find its way into my rotation. But if that same person sent you a 43-second clip of a really interesting moment of that podcast, I'd say 10 out of 10 they're going to be clicking on that clip. And if they're not watching all the way through, they're watching most of the way through. So I like to think of these clips, the shorts, as breadcrumbs. These are the little breadcrumbs to give people just a little taste of what your show is all about, and what your channel is all about. Then hopefully that leads them to the slice of bread, which is the longer clips, you know, maybe that's a two to five to eight-minute clip. And that could be on Facebook, that could be on Twitter, that could be on YouTube. And then hopefully if they liked that slice of bread, they want to go find the full loaf of bread, and that full loaf of bread, obviously being the main piece of content. So I really don't think you can put out enough content. I get that you're at the mercy of how much time you have, and how much time you're able to spend on that. But if you have the time to do that, that I think is a huge, huge technique. And, look, I know that you're not alone in this. And this is the whole reason that I set up Full Time Creator. You've probably heard me talking about it on social media, the website is fulltimecreator.co This is the whole reason we set it up. Because I've been doing this now for 12 years, I've been doing it full-time as my entire job for four years. And my buddy Travis Chapell has been doing it full-time for almost his whole career. We've made a tonne of mistakes, and we don't want you to make them too. And we've also got a lot of things right. So we built Full Time Creator as a mastermind for people who are in the same situation that we were in years ago to be able to learn from that and grow in a community of people who are also going through the same stuff. So we started like two weeks ago and I'm just jacked. I'm so excited with how it's going. We've got a huge expert guest joining us for a private conversation for just the people who are part of Full Time Creator, that's happening on Tuesday. So if you're just like on the fence about it, not even on the fence about if you're just even thinking about it, if it's a thought that has entered your mind, go to fulltimecreator.co And just sign up, it's $1. If you don't like it after a week, that's it, cancel. You don't need to be part of the group at all. But all you've got to lose is $1. And if you're not willing to invest in the content that you're making, and you're not willing to invest both time and money into your future as a creator, then you're probably going to keep spinning your wheels here. So that's why we built this out. Go take a look. I think you'll like it."

Given your own busy schedule, which now includes Full Time Creator as well. What's the best approach for other podcasts to get you as a guest?

"I really haven't been a guest on a lot of other podcasts and the few that I have been on, they've just been friends of mine, and they happen to live in town. And I think you guys know I've talked about it enough that I'm trying to do as many of my own interviews as I can in person. Because nothing beats in person if it's a possibility. If you have the ability to do an interview in person with someone, shake their hand, look them in the eye, feel their energy, nothing beats it. So I've been trying to do as many of my own interviews in person as possible. And if I ever am a guest on someone's show, like I was recently a guest on my friend Kia’s show, it's just like, well let's do it in person. You know, you live not far from me, I was a guest on Denise Salcedo’s show. She lives not far from me in person. I guess in short, the answer is that I'm just not doing a lot of podcasts because I'm focusing on the content that I'm creating. And also really trying to balance my time with a baby at home, and Logan's four months old. And I'm trying to put out as many podcasts as possible, as many clips as possible. Working on Full Time Creator like you mentioned and building out that amazing community. And it's just like, I only have so many hours to do so many things. So I'm really just trying to focus on telling other people's stories. I've done a lot of interviews. So if someone's listening to this and just wants to hear like, Oh, how'd you get to where you're at? There are a lot of interviews out there that you can go check out. The recent one with Denise is really good. Kia Nalbandi, the one I was just talking about, that's another great one. Sean Ross Sapp had me on. And we had a great conversation about how all of this came together. So if you're just curious about like, what's the journey been? And I haven't heard enough of it from your own podcast episodes, or from these Ask CVV episodes, go check those out. But I'm sure there'll come a point where our paths will cross and we're in person together. And, you know, I'm able and have the time to do more of these, but I'm really just trying to focus my efforts on like, how many more episodes can we put out here? Like, how many more episodes can we record? Whether that's flying to Tampa like we did to do six interviews there Ric Flair, and Hulk Hogan, of course, but then for other ones there, whether that's flying to Chicago for Survivor Series. If you're going to Survivor Series, I will see you in Chicago. Whether that's flying back to Tampa for the Royal Rumble. I'm trying to maximise that time. That's a Cody Rhodes quote isn't it maximise your minutes, he said that was the best advice he got from Dusty “Maximise your minutes.” So I'm trying to maximise my minutes."

When you look back on your career. Is there anything you tell your younger self as you travelled into the world of content creation and media?

"Look, it's changed so much. I got my first radio job in 2004 and I was on TV for the first time in 2005. I was still in school in 2004, still in college, so it's changed a lot. Facebook didn't really exist. Facebook at that time was like you had to be going to one of these select few colleges to be invited to be part of Facebook. MySpace was like really just starting to take off. So it was really just like traditional broadcasting and it's changed so much. I think the biggest piece of advice is twofold. The biggest number one would be just to enjoy it. There's been some really cool moments and it's been fun seeing some tweets lately and people being like, Man, I love seeing these big things happen to you like you interviewed Hogan, you interviewed Flair. Yeah, that's my fourth interview with both of those guys, it's been a heck of a run. It's been a heck of a, you know, a career thus far. And I mean, in the last 12 months, you've seen some of the wrestling interviews, but I've also interviewed Christian Bale, Arnold Schwarzenegger, George Clooney, Julia Roberts, it's been some big ones. So I would say enjoy the moments. Like the moments like being on the red carpet at the Oscars, was able to do that a few times, reporting live from the Oscars, the biggest night of entertainment. Enjoy the moments like when you're at the Grammys, enjoy the moments like, you know, WrestleMania, and I've been starting to do that more often. Like, really take it in, look around, look for small details and commit them to memory, the sights, the smells, the sounds. I mean, if you're drinking something or eating something, the taste. Yeah, I think that's, that's number one. I think number two is, if I had had the foresight to do this, start earlier in terms of creating content start earlier. And that's kind of like saying, like, oh, you should have invested in Apple 30 years ago, or you should have invested in Tesla 10 years ago. I always come back to that Chinese proverb of the best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago, the second best time is today. But I was, I guess, I was one of the first at the time, like broadcasters and local media who was doing a little bit more social media stuff. So I'm grateful for that. But if I could have been giving this the commitment that I'm giving it now 10 years ago, I don't know, who knows. But I don't ever live in that idea of like, Oh, what if I have regrets about this? Not at all, no regrets. I don't ever go, what if? I just think to myself, if I could go back in Back to the Future DeLorean, I would just say to myself, like, Yeah, I know that right now in 2014. Do you think that posting twice on Instagram is a lot? Maybe try upping that." 

Do you honestly think Cody will finish the story at WrestleMania 40? Just want to know your personal feelings on this as of now. 

"And this is always such an interesting one to answer because as of right now, as of October 2023, I think yes. I think they find a way to bring the story back around. It's Cody and Roman. Cody couldn't do it last year, he does it here. And I know that there's been this wrench thrown into the plans of is The Rock gonna be at WrestleMania, The Rock was very close to being at WrestleMania 39 and for whatever reason that didn't happen. I don't know. I think my personal opinion right now is The Rock came back on SmackDown because he happened to be in town. Or I guess you could look at it from the flip side that he happened to be in town because he was going to be on SmackDown. But I really think it is the other way around. I feel like he was in town for like, College Game Day and everything that was going on there. And then it was like, alright, well, if you're in town, we just had this really big merger with the UFC and WWE and this Endeavour deal. If you're in town Rock, could you show up? Could you make an appearance? I think that's what happened. I really do. I could be totally wrong here, but I think that's what happened. Obviously, we'll find out in the next few months if The Rock is part of the programming if he shows up at the Royal Rumble or something like that. But I just think as of right now, if The Rock is part of WrestleMania 40 It doesn't feel like it'd be for a match. Because if it’s Rock Roman, I mean Roman wins, right? There's no point for The Rock to win that, actually could be The Rock's retirement match. If it's Rock, Roman, Roman wins and then what does Roman do? Does Roman hang on to it until WrestleMania 41? I just don't think that makes sense. And it doesn't make sense for Cody to go for the World Heavyweight Championship. That doesn't feel like the WrestleMania match that everyone's talking about. So I think we're months away now, right? We're seven months away from WrestleMania, it just still feels like yes, Cody will finish the story. But hey, I'm sure this will be the topic of almost every Ask CVV until we get there." 

Who are the top five wrestling hand-shakers?

"That might be one of the best questions I've ever been asked. A lot of good wrestling handshakes. A lot of not-so-good wrestling handshakes. And not because we just talked about him but Cody Rhodes has a shockingly large hand, he's a pretty big guy, right? He's like maybe six, six foot one. But when he shakes your hand, he has the handshake of someone who's like six inches taller than that. And I'll never forget that he shakes your hand and it is just big, meaty wrestler hand. When I say that, I mean like an amateur wrestler hand. It's a big meaty hand. I don't know if I can give you a top five. But almost every wrestler whose hand I've ever shaken has been a very firm, great handshake, or a handshake followed by a hug. But yeah, like Cody Rhodes, that one kind of threw me off of like, that's a big hand. And Kurt Angle, obviously, great handshake, also makes you like, it's one of those. It's one of those handshakes that when you shake his hand, and Ken Shamrock, I'll throw Ken Shamrock into this too. It's one of those handshakes where you're like, oh, this man could literally kill me. That's the kind of handshake that it is. So I don't have five but there's three right off the top of my head. Now every time you see Cody on TV, you're gonna be like, oh, yeah, his hands are really large." 

Would you rather be able to speak to and communicate with animals? Or be able to speak every language in the world? 

"Oh, what a would you rather? I'm gonna go with the animals. Because lots of people can speak, not every language in the world, lots of people can speak many languages. Nobody can speak to animals. I mean, not at least communicate with them. So I'm gonna go there. Can I communicate with all animals? Like are you saying, like, I can have a conversation with my dog Luna and know what she's thinking and doing? Incredible! Cats, just walk down the street and talk to a cat. Birds flying in the sky, dolphins jumping in the ocean? Can I go to the zoo and just be hearing voices everywhere? The Tiger’s saying something, elephant’s saying something? What's that, Mr. Monkey? Sign me up for that. Although, if you had the ability to speak to and communicate with all animals, you'd be the only person in the world who'd be able to do that. And I feel like people would think you're crazy. Because you'd be the only person and be able to hear that. And you'd be telling people like, oh, yeah, that leopard over there says this. And people go oh, yeah, sure, buddy. I would choose the animals at the risk of sounding crazy." 

When will you interview Jim Cornette? 

"I would love to have Jim Cornette on the show. He's such a fascinating figure in wrestling and I think it'd be just such a great conversation. So whether you love Jim Cornette, or you hate Jim Cornette, you feel something about Jim Cornette and that's what's important. That's the essence of pro wrestling. So I would love to be able to talk to Jim Cornette and just figure out who he is. I would just love to like learn a little bit more about him. I think that he's wildly entertaining, whether you agree with him or not, he is wildly entertaining. So I don't have a direct line of communication to him. I'm not even sure like, how to reach out to him. So if you're listening to this right now, and you know which email I should send an email to, please let me know. But if Jim Cornette would be up for it, and we can find a path of communication so that I can reach out to him and we can set this up. I'm in. I would love that. I think that'd be one of the best episodes of the year." 

What's your favourite Backstreet Boys song other than I Want It That Way?

"I frequently sing around the house Backstreets Back. That whole Millennium album was really good. Yeah. I think Backstreets Back, although I'll give you a deep cut here. Perfect Fan. I remember hearing Perfect Fan for the first time. And for those of you who aren't Backstreet Boys fans, it's a song about Brian's mom and just talking about like Mom, you always were the perfect fan. I remember hearing that for the first time like tearing up. I thought the song is just so sweet. And made me think about my mom. So I think that that that'll be a deep cut there if you ever want to get real sentimental, real mushy, put on Perfect Fan by the Backstreet Boys." 

Any tips to get a newborn to sleep? 

"Congrats to you. We now have a four-month-old Logan. And I wish I had a tip because we're not getting much sleep around here. And that is not a complaint at all. That is simply the delivery of some information. I'm never going to be one of those people that's like oh man, I didn't get enough sleep last night. I'm never going to be one of those people. I am so incredibly grateful to have this beautiful, smart, healthy little baby girl. But the truth of the matter is she wakes up three or four times a night. So we put her down at like 7:15 or 7:30 If we're lucky, she sleeps until like 11 to 12, somewhere around there, wakes up once and then wakes up like every two-ish hours after that. So then wakes up again around 2, maybe 4. So it's like three or four wake up tonight. So I wish I had some advice for you. I certainly do not. And if you figure this out before me, please send me a message and let me know." 

Several podcasters are arguing over which is the best rocky film in the series. Can you help settle this, please? 

"Oh, man, that is such a good question. I think objectively, this isn't even like opinion, I think objectively Rocky is the best film in the series. Is Rocky the best Rocky film in the series? When you think about Rocky you think about the training montages and the big fight sequences. Rocky just has the one fight really. So is Rocky the best Rocky movie? Probably not, that's probably Rocky three. Yeah, you got Clubber Lang in there and Thunder Lips, aka. Mr. T and Hulk Hogan. I think the storyline of number three is really good. So I'm gonna go with number three as the best fighting movie. But when it comes to like, films, I think you can't beat Rocky, just as a film, as an Academy Award-winning film. I think that Rocky is the best film in the franchise. But Rocky really in its core is a love story. And I don't know if a lot of people talk about that, like, oh, Rocky, yeah, it's a great, you know, it's a boxing story. But it's a love story. It's a love story between Rocky and Adrian and that blossoms into what we see after that. But I mean, look at all the Oscars that won, if you want to just talk objectively like what is the best film? Best Picture? Best Actor in a Leading Role, Sylvester Stallone. Best Actress in a Leading Role, like all the amount of wins and nominations. I could keep going. I don't know why I didn't Burt Young got nominated. Best Director, best writing, the soundtrack? Best Film Editing, best music. Yeah, it's a lot of nominations. So I hope that settles a score. I get where the arguments come in. I think a lot of people also say Rocky 4. I mean, I don't know if there's a better fight than Rocky versus Drago, you will lose, really good. I'd love to hear what you think." 

What kind of gear do you use?

"I get this one a lot. I'm gonna put it out here. And hopefully, you know, if this is where you're at right now in your content creation journey. You'll grab onto this right now. I'll tell you what I use and then I'm going to tell you it doesn't really matter what you use. I use a Sony A74 as my main camera. That's the one that I think looks so crisp. When you're looking at the webcam or when you're looking at it like I used it for a lot of any of my recent interviews that looks extra juicy. And the lens on there is a Tamron 28 to 75 millimetre F 2.8. You'll figure it out, it’s the only Tamron like that. It's the DI3. Yeah, it's a great lens. It's a very juicy lens, that setup with that body and that lens is like $3,500. All of that is to say you do not need that lens. I shot most of my interviews for the first 10 years, 12 years on an iPhone. And I think that the reason I say that you don't need to buy great gear is because I think that too many aspiring creators use gear as a crutch. They go, I'll be a great creator when I buy that camera. Oh, by the way, the mic is the Shure SM7B it is the gold standard of podcast mics. It's the black cylindrical mic. You see Joe Rogan using it, it’s that every top podcaster uses. But I think that a lot of people use the gear as a crutch, they go oh, I'll be a great creator when I get that mic or when I get that camera, use the gear you have right now. Use what you have in front of you and then continue to grow from there. Don't go breaking the bank on a $3,500 camera and lens and a $400 microphone. If you have the money to do it, and you have the means to do it and that's something that you want to do, I completely recommend it for sure. And I would definitely recommend buying a good mic, especially if you're a podcaster, over a good camera first. Because if your podcast sounds like crap, like if you're recording it like this, and it sounds like you're across the room, everyone's gonna think that your podcast is crap, perception is reality when it comes to content creation. So if you are going to spend some money on something, I would say buy the Shure SM7B. I'm sure there are other mics that are good. I can't speak to them personally, because I haven't used them. But I do know that Tony Robbins always says success leaves clues. There's a reason all the top podcasters are using the mic that I'm speaking into right now because it's the best. So if you want to have crispy audio like this, and you have the ability to pay for that or buy a used one. I have actually bought a second one here sitting right in front of me. I bought a used one. So it's a $400 microphone, I bought it used on eBay for like $220. So if you an the ability to do it, that's where you should be spending your money. And then find that audio interface, plug it into your computer with a USB port, Bada bing, bada boom, your Zoom interviews, your Zoom meetings, they're all gonna sound so much better now."

Who was really better, Bret or Shawn? 

"I mean, it really comes down to are you a Bret person or are you a Shawn person. Both are so good. Both are arguably the greatest in-ring workers in the history of the business. I just feel like Bret got shortchanged a little bit. If the screw job hadn't happened, and he hadn't gone to WCW I just think that we would be talking about Bret without question being the greatest of all time. But that's what life's all about, right? It's like these what ifs? Because he had great matches in WCW. But I don't really think a lot of people talk about them. I mean, everyone talks about, and that's not to say that they didn't exist, I just feel like everyone goes back to like the matches that he had in WWF. Oh, just off the top of your head obviously matches with like Mr. Perfect and matches with Owen, like, there's so many. And I'm gonna, if I start listing them off, you're gonna be like, Oh, I can't believe you forgot about that one. Look, Bret versus anybody is a great match. Shawn Michaels versus anybody is a great match. I just think that if you look at their careers as a whole, Bret’s kind of went on a real decline when he went to WCW. And you could just tell he wasn't happy being there. And then Shawn Michaels, you know, had his own demons and had his own issues. And we saw him come back and I mean, one of the greatest matches ever is him and The Undertaker, really both of them. I mean, we'll never get a better retirement moment than the super kick or the sweet chin music the I'm sorry, I love you with Ric Flair. I think they're both good, but who was really better? You can't go wrong. It's really like flavours of ice cream. You know, I think if you like mint chocolate chip, and I like Rocky Road, I was gonna go like chocolate or vanilla but it’s too plain, strawberry Neapolitan. I think it's just choosing ice cream flavours in it can't go wrong with ice cream. It's all good. Being a Canadian, I think I'm a little biased to Bret. Although I've talked about this a lot. I've never been a huge fan of the pro-Canada gimmicks because it's just the cheapest of cheap heat. And it's cool like it was cool growing up and seeing them wave the Canadian flag because as a kid growing up in Canada, you didn't see that a lot in pro sports in general, especially not in pro wrestling, so it was cool to see that. And I think in pro wrestling, Bret was so proud to be Canadian that it made me even more proud to be Canadian as well. But I've just never been a big fan of like he did it, you know, with waving the flag, and then there was Team Canada in TNA. And then there was the Un-Americans. I've just never been a big fan of like, the cheapest of the cheap heats. And I know that pro wrestling is all about this, but I've never been a fan of like the I'm better than you because I'm from a different country. And then you go to America, and like, it's just boo! You saw the same thing with La Resistance like they were so French that you were supposed to boo them because they were French. I don't know, I've just never been a fan of that type of stuff. But again, all that to say is Bret and Shawn, two great flavours of ice cream. You can't go wrong." 

What is one lesson your daughter Logan has taught you so far?

"She has taught me a lot, just one lesson? If it's just one lesson, I think the lesson has been patience. And I think the lesson has also been like, be flexible. Because you've got a plan to do a certain thing at a certain time. And if that baby isn't sleeping well or isn't eating well, you can throw those plans out the window because Logan's at a stage right now where she doesn't enjoy going in the car seat. So the second we put her in the car seat, and a lot of babies fall asleep when they go in the car. Not our little girl, at least not yet. We put her in the car seat. And she suddenly screams her head off. And then we put her in the car in the truck. And it takes a good 5, 10, 15 minutes and she will calm down. Although we drove home from the airport the other day. And it was a 52-minute drive from LAX and she cried for all 52 minutes. Again, the lesson here is patience. And I think another lesson and I know I was only asked for one. But you got me thinking here. Another lesson is just like wonderment. She looks at everything with such wonder and there's a real magic in that. Because she is quite literally seeing everything for the first time. And I love that she's seeing it with these new eyes, these fresh eyes. And then it allows me to see things through new eyes, through fresh eyes. And it makes you realise how much wonder exists in the smallest of things. The things that we see all the time that we take for granted. And she looks at them and she's like, wow. So that's been a big one for me, is a little bit of sense of wonder. And that's going to be a thing for a while. And I love that that. That's the real thing, like the patience and the making the plans thing. Yeah, sure. That's definitely there. And I think we could all use a little bit more patience. But I think we can also all use a little bit more wonder in our lives, especially in pro wrestling. Guys, it's not all negative. And that's why I'm trying to be a tiny little glimmer of positivity in this often very negative landscape. Think about if you were watching wrestling for the first time, not even the first time, like the first six months the first year or something. There was a real wonder, seeing stuff for the first time or hearing an entrance song, and I feel like sometimes because we've been fans for so long we forget. We forget like yes, I get that the Canadian Destroyer is completely overused. I'm with you on that. But the first time I saw Petey Williams do a Canadian destroyer. I literally couldn't understand what he was doing. I remember watching the clip back in slow motion like pause, play, pause, play, pause, play like frame by frame, trying to figure out exactly what was going on. There's a real wonder in that and those moments are so rare. And wrestling also has so few surprises now. Which is why the moment like The Rock coming out on SmackDown completely unannounced because he happened to be in Colorado are such big moments. Sure they could have popped the rating and they could have said The Rock is gonna be on SmackDown tune in this week. And then you just tune in and every single segment you'd be going is The Rock coming out yet? Is The Rock coming out yet? And the crowd would be chanting Rocky, Rocky it literally every single segment The rating might have been better. But now you get the like, wonderment the surprise of The Rock coming. Oh my gosh, he's here. This wasn't even rumoured this wasn't even talked about he came out of nowhere. And another one of those really big moments was the start of WrestleMania 30. How good was that? Like, Hogan? Surprise, Stone Cold surprise, The Rock’s here too, surprise oh my gosh, like, that was so cool to be able to see that moment, the greatest intro to WrestleMania ever the greatest opening segment ever. So, wonderment. Maybe that can be the word that we like, think about here into weekend, wonderment. There's literally wonder and magic and everything."